When Is It OK To Call Someone A “DAMN LIAR” ?

At this point in the video, Joe is challenging the farmer to push-up and an IQ test.

Am I making a mountain out of a molehill? Should Democrats be concerned — flabbergasted even — that Joe Biden looked an 83 year old farmer in the face and said “You’re a damn liar, man.” Has Trump made this type of accusative rudeness somehow acceptable?

The old farmer had halting speech and appeared to need a cane. He had already admitted that he didn’t have “the mental faculty” that he once had. He did his best to articulate an accusation concerning Biden and his son, Hunter, and said: “You (Biden) sent your son over there to get a job and work for a gas company regardless that he has no experience with gas — nothing — in order to get access to the president. You’re (Biden) selling access to the president just like he (Trump) was.”

This is when Biden decided it was OK to shout: “You’re A Damn Liar, man”

Whoa. Where was the lie?

There is no dispute that Hunter accepted a job with a Ukraine oil company regardless that he has no experience, no credentials, that might make his employer think he would be an asset worthy of a big salary. Hunter has admitted as much.

I guess that what got Biden so fired up was the accusation that Joe “sent” his son and this amounted to selling access to the power of the presidency — just like Trump offering access to the power of the presidency — as a bribe.

It must make Joe really angry when anyone accuses him of setting his son up in the job and sending his son to Ukraine. He knows that it wasn’t that way at all. He condoned, He permitted. But you are a damn liar if you say he sent his son there.

No. No. No. Joe has convinced himself, evidently, that churning up some anger was the best response. neither he nor his son in this matter has done anything wrong. So rather than being the teacher and the visionary that we need our next president to be, Joe played the victim and the scold. Before this incident I was leaning towards supporting Joe. Now I know that I can’t.

And Joe is defending his right to accuse someone of being a “damn liar”

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Friday defended his rebuke of a voter in Iowa, whom he labeled a “damn liar” for accusing him of “selling access” to the White House.

“The fact of the matter is, this guy stood up and he was, in fact, lying,” the Democratic presidential candidate told NPR on the campaign bus to Decorah after the heated exchange went viral. “I just pointed out, you’re a liar. It’s a fact. He lied, period.”

Transcript of Farmer / Biden Exchange

I am an 83 year old farmer and I am not a Republican, sort of unique that way.  I have two problems with you. First of all you are damn near as old as I am. You are too old. I don’t nearly have the mental faculty that I used to have. … We all know Trump is less than honorable messing around in Ukraine holding foreign aid. We know all about that. … You on the other hand sent your son over there to get a job and work for a gas company regardless that he has no experience with gas, nothing — in order to get access to the president. You’re selling access to the president just like he was.

You’re a damn liar, man. That’s not true and nobody has ever said that . (cross talk) I’m not sedentary. The reason I am running is because I’ve been around a long time and I know more than most people know and I can get things done. If you want to check my shape, let’s do push-ups here together, man. Let’s run, let’s do whatever it is you want to do. And, number two, nobody has said that my son has done anything wrong.

I didn’t say that you did anything wrong.

You said that I set up my son to work in an oil company. Isn’t that what you said? Get your words straight, Jack.

That’s what I hear on MSNBC.

You don’t hear that on MSNBC. I’m not going to get in an argument.

I don’t want to argue either.

Oh yes you do. Look, fat, look. Here’s the deal.

It looks like you don’t have any more backbone than Trump does. (Crowd erupts: boo, sit down) Alright, I’m not voting for you.

Well I knew you weren’t. You’re too old to vote for me. (Laughter)

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2 Responses to When Is It OK To Call Someone A “DAMN LIAR” ?

  1. Chet Bauch says:

    One would suppose that Biden should have kept his son out of Burisma. Calling this man a liar will go viral and weaken Biden and make music for the Trump loonies.

  2. Mike Bock says:

    I agree Chet. I was disappointed in Joe because I felt that this response was calculated and not spur of the moment. He was on the “No Malarky” tour and I think he feels it helps his image to talk this way. But he is driving me away from supporting him with this language and attitude. He’ll need to say more than the lame excuse that all of this is legal. That’s our problem —
    we’ve legalized a lot of unethical behavior. Hope you are having a very nice Christmas and I’d like to see you sometime. I owe you a drink or two.

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