Is Locus Of Consciousness Outside Of Body? Medical Doctors Begin Extensive Research With Near Death Patients

Is the locus of consciousness outside of the body?  Doctors at 25 US and UK hospitals have agreed to participate in a study to find out.  These doctors, over the next several years, will participate in an experiment that will determine the truth of “out of body” experiences that are sometimes reported by resuscitated patients.  They hope to study up to 1500 survivors of cardiac arrest and other emergencies to see if people with no heartbeat or brain activity, in fact, have “out of body experiences.”

Part of the experiment will consist of places images and messages in Intensive Care Units or Emergency rooms in locations impossible to see unless one’s consciousness just happens to be floating above the whole scene, say, from the ceiling.

Dr Sam Parnia, who is heading the study, said: “”This is a mystery that we can now subject to scientific study.  If you can demonstrate that consciousness continues after the brain switches off, it allows for the possibility that the consciousness is a separate entity.

“It is unlikely that we will find many cases where this happens, but we have to be open-minded.  And if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are illusions or false memories.”

Steven Novella, a  neurologist at Yale School of Medicine, for one, is skeptical.  Novella is the cofounder of the New England Skeptical Society, and believes “out of body” experiences have a neurological basis.

A 2007 article from Time Magazine has this to say about Near Death Experiences (NDE):

“The conflict in science over NDEs centers not on whether they happen but on what they are. It’s accepted, based on various studies, that between 4% and 18% of people who are resuscitated after cardiac arrest have an NDE. Researchers tend to fall into one of two camps. The first argues that an NDE is a purely physiological phenomenon that occurs within an oxygen-starved brain.

“The second camp is as adamant that no theory based purely on the workings of the brain can account for all elements of an NDE, and that we should consider the mind-bending possibility that consciousness can exist independent of a functioning brain, or at least that consciousness is more complex than we suppose. Though NDEs are driven in part by neurochemistry and psychology, says Auckland psychiatrist Karl Jansen, it has ‘underlying mechanisms in more mysterious realms that cannot currently be described.’”

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Mike Turner’s “No” Vote Was Attempt To Boost His “Conservative” Credentials

I just wrote an extended response to an article posted by David Esrati, When Mike Turner and David Kucinich Agree, We Live In Extraordinary Times.

David. I enjoyed reading your post and I heartily agree with its conclusion:

“Wouldn’t it be great if we as voters, could just check each incumbent and each challengers site- to find out how they would vote, or why they voted the way they did- straight from the horses mouth? Neither Jane Mitakides or Mike Turner have had anything resembling an original idea on their respective sites about this critical issue.

“Of course, if I was still a candidate for OH-3, you’d all know exactly how I felt- and why. You’d also have the chance to discuss, debate and influence my position, because- believe it or not, it’s called the House of Representatives for a long forgotten reason.”

I just checked Turner’s web-site,  thinking maybe it would feature the press release he gave to DDN about his “No” vote on the $700 Billion bail out legislation, but nothing. Yesterday I called both Turner’s Dayton office and his Washington office and left my name and e-mail address and requested that the congressman send me a copy of any press release he would prepare for the news media. Nothing.

I’ve urged Turner’s challenger, Democrat Jane Mitakides, to make better use of the internet. Last week I interviewed Jane and wrote: “Effectively Using the Internet Is Key to Jane Mitakides Defeating Congressman Mike Turner”

How someone runs her or his campaign is a strong indication of how he or she will conduct themselves in office, if elected. As a person with a strong history of web experience, you made a convincing point in your campaign when you promised to effectively use the internet to communicate with and to be accessible to voters.

I need to comment also about your reaction to the Dayton Daily News article about Turner’s recent “No.” You quote the Dayton Daily News:

“Turner, meanwhile, said he voted against the bill because it fails to hold accountable those who got the financial system into trouble in the first place and because it does not prohibit the bad lending that led to this crisis. He said there were no guarantees that the bailout would work, and no plan for what to do if it didn’t succeed.  ‘Our entire financial system has been imperiled by the greed of the people that run some of these companies,’ he said. ‘The same people could continue to offer these same loans that caused all this trouble; this bill will not prevent it.'”

You are a long time critic of Turner, who sought the Democratic Party’s nomination to run against him, and I am surprised, in response to the DDN article, you wrote, “Turner scored major points in my book for taking this stand.”

To me, this “No” vote was not a “stand” at all.    It seems much more likely that it was simply a calculated political move. People are usually true to their established character and behavior.

I wrote, in my article, “Jane, made the point that because of the mess created by a Republican president and a Republican congress, and because Mike Turner has been overwhelmingly supportive of Republican policies, that Turner deserves to lose. Yes. But Jane needs to make the case.”

The reason Jane needs to make the case, to lay the facts out in stark terms, is because, amazingly, some voters, who have lost all confidence in George Bush and his policies, don’t connect the dots that it was Republicans, like congressman Mike Turner, who made the actions of George Bush possible.

Why did Turner vote 90% of the time, or so, to support the Republican agenda? I don’t believe he was making a “stand” in these votes.  I don’t believe that his votes were motivated by sound principles and careful reasoning. I don’t think his votes were motivated by his commitment to advancing the public good, or that he even used his best judgment. The motivation for Turner’s wholehearted support of the Republican agenda, it seems to me, was purely political. It doesn’t strike me that Turner sees himself as servant of the people. With Mike Turner, it seems, it’s all about securing and advancing the interests of Mike Turner.

The trouble is, the bill has come due.  Reality has smacked the Republican agenda and the Republican philosophy in the face. The trouble is, it’s time to pay up. Under Bush and Turner the national deficit has increased by over $3 Trillion. Staggering in its implications. We’ve engaged in a very expensive war and at the same time we’ve cut taxes. We’ve grown the size of government and and the waste in government at an alarming rate. We’ve allowed lobbyists to write our laws. And Turner didn’t make a peep.

This was politics. This was cronyism. This was gorging at the trough. This was all about winning and wielding power. Shouldn’t Turner have voted “No” to all this nonsense years ago when a “stand” from a real Republican Ohio conservative might have made a difference? The attitude and the actions of this wild Bush era were never “conservative” — in any twisted meaning of the term. Of course Turner in this conservative 3rd District, would like to run from this miserable anti-conservative record. And now, in the matter of this proposed Wall Street bail out,  is Turner’s big chance to resound with all of the conservatives in the 3rd District who are mad as hell at this proposed legislation. It’s Turner’s opportunity, now that the chickens are roosting, to make a conservative “stand” and vote “No.”  And hope that his conservative constituents will not notice the votes of his previous six years.

Turner’s “No” vote, in my judgment, is despicable — because, as I see it, his vote is purely political.

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Prime Minister of Israel, Olmert, Says Israel Should Pull Out of West Bank

Israel’s Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, says Israel must leave the West Bank as well as East Jerusalem.   Excerpts from an article from the New York Times:

  • “What I am saying to you now has not been said by any Israeli leader before me,” Mr. Olmert told the newspaper Yediot Aharonot in the interview on the occasion of the Jewish new year, observed from Monday evening till Wednesday evening. “The time has come to say these things.”
  • Olmert said, “Who thinks seriously that if we sit on another hilltop, on another hundred meters, that this is what will make the difference for the State of Israel’s basic security?”
  • Over the last year, Mr. Olmert has publicly castigated himself for his earlier right-wing views and he did so again in this interview. On Jerusalem, for example, he said: “I am the first who wanted to enforce Israeli sovereignty on the entire city. I admit it. I am not trying to justify retroactively what I did for 35 years. For a large portion of these years, I was unwilling to look at reality in all its depth.”
  • He said that maintaining sovereignty over an undivided Jerusalem, Israel’s official policy, would involve bringing 270,000 Palestinians inside Israel’s security barrier. It would mean a continuing risk of terrorist attacks against civilians like those carried out this year by Jerusalem Palestinian residents with front-end loaders.
  • On peace with the Palestinians, Mr. Olmert said in the interview: “We face the need to decide but are not willing to tell ourselves, yes, this is what we have to do. We have to reach an agreement with the Palestinians, the meaning of which is that in practice we will withdraw from almost all the territories, if not all the territories. We will leave a percentage of these territories in our hands, but will have to give the Palestinians a similar percentage, because without that there will be no peace.”
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