A Nice Surprise: Jyl Hall — Kettering Candidate For Council — And Her Dad, Congressman Tony Hall, Visited With Me Today

Mike Bock, Jyl Hall and Tony Hall

What a nice surprise this afternoon to discover that Jyl Hall — candidate seeking election to Kettering’s City Council — was campaigning on my street. Jyl was accompanied by her father, Tony Hall — our representative to the U.S. Congress from1979 to 2002  and then United States Ambassador to the United Nations Agencies for Food and Agriculture. See: Tony Hall Tells Democrats To Remember Mother Teresa’s Words: “Do The Thing That Is In Front Of You”

I shook Congressman Hall’s hand and thanked him for his career as our congressman and thanked him for his work to help feed the hungry of the world. I asked if they would wait until I could run into the house and get my camera — and they said “Sure.” 

I’ve already thrown the entire weight of DaytonOS behind Jyl’s campaign — endorsing both her and the incumbent seeking reelection, Jacque Fisher.  You can read the article here. I’m especially enthusiastic to support Jyl because she earned a Master’s and PhD from Asbury Theological Seminary — in Wilmore, Ky. — adjacent to my alma mater, Asbury University.

Jyl Hall and Tony Hall in front of my house.

There are three candidates for the two “at-large” positions and the third candidate is Joseph Patak. I hope he doesn’t win. One reason I hope Patak loses is because I’ve contacted him three times and he has refused to respond.  If he is ignoring me when he is seeking election, I imagine he will ignore me when elected. The second reason I hope he loses is because a look at his Facebook page shows he is far far out of the mainstream.  Read my article:CONSERVATIVE Candidate For Kettering Council, Boasts That A Crackpot Propagandist — David Barton — “Is One Of My Heroes”

Anyway, what a nice surprise today. Jyl is campaigning hard. She has my vote. Jyl, I know, would be a good influence and provide positive leadership on the Council. I hope that Kettering voters will support her. So nice to have the opportunity to briefly visit with Jyl Hall, her husband, and Tony Hall today.   

 

 

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Joseph Patak, CONSERVATIVE Candidate For Kettering Council, Boasts That A Crackpot Propagandist — David Barton — “Is One Of My Heroes”

Joseph Patak and David Barton. On Facebook, Patak writes, “The picture is of me and one of my heroes, David Barton, the founder of Wallbuilders. He is a historian and minister that teaches the truth about the Christian foundation of the USA and that Christians should get involved in the political process.”

Joseph Patak is seeking election to the Kettering City Council and he has signs all over town declaring that he is CONSERVATIVE. His Facebook record reveals that he is not an Eisenhower or Reagan conservative, however, but, in fact, identifies with people and ideas that the old mainstream Republicans would have firmly rejected. 

On Facebook, Patak says he has a business and that he also conducts services as a Christian minister. He writes, “I am excited about God’s call on me to serve Kettering. If you know me, this decision did not happen on a whim but through godly council and fasting and prayer.” This sounds fine, but it is troubling that Kettering might elect a man who aligns with a Christianity espoused by David Barton — a discredited self-published historian who advocates for Christian Nationalism, who rejects the notion of a separation of church and state, and who advocates for Dominionism, the belief that God and all Christians should have and take dominion over all of the earth. Regardless, Patak declares that David Barton is “one of my heroes.”

On Facebook, Patak urges his “Friends”: “You want to take America back? You want to stop fraud? You want to take back control of the establishment?

  • Start taking over school boards
  • Start taking over city councils
  • Start taking over mayor races
  • Start taking over local GOP positions
  • Start being poll workers
  • Start being poll watchers.”

Patak sees his effort to become elected to the Kettering Council, I guess, as his start to “taking over” the Council.   

Joseph has run an active campaign and has placed his CONSERVATIVE signs all over Kettering

Facebook shows Patak with a big smile with the discredited historian, David Barton. On his website, Patak has taken down a reference to a political training seminar he evidently had attended and I’m guessing this picture comes from a seminar that Barton led

It’s shocking, really, that Patak would glorify Barton — a person with so much baggage. Barton claims that Thomas Jefferson was an orthodox Christian and makes many other absurd claims. Barton is loved by radicals like Glen Beck, Pat Rob­ertson, and Ted Cruz, but his claims have been debunked time and again — by mainstream conservatives and by devout evangelicals who are trained historians.  

David Barton once was a respected evangelical historian, but over time his views became so outrageous that, according to Southern Poverty Law Center, “Virtually all serious conservatives have repudiated him” and now, “only the most extreme and uneducated segments of the Christian Right” support him. 

It is disturbing that in this time of deep division and polarization, that Kettering has an active candidate aligning with views that are so radical and out of the mainstream. I sent Patak three different emails asking for him to respond to questions I had prepared, but he ignored my requests. The other two at-large candidates — Jyl Hall and Jacque Fisher did respond. You can read my questions and their answers here: For Kettering City Council — “At Large” Positions — I Am Voting For Jacque Fisher and Jyl Hall

What follows are excerpts from several articles: This from a 2018 Vox article

Understanding The Fake Historian Behind America’s Religious Right

Barton argued that the founders never intended for a separation of church and state, deriding the concept as a “liberal myth.” …

 

Instead, as a dominionist, Barton is among those who believe the ultimate goal for American government should be a Christian theocratic state, which is necessary to properly usher in the apocalyptic End Times. …

 

Many political figures, including Ted Cruz and Roy Moore, have embraced a form of Christian nationalism or Dominionism, based on the idea that the American government should run on Christian principles. Barton’s focus is giving this idea legitimacy. …

 

It’s also telling that so much of this revisionist American history is about blending Christianity with a very specific form of American (usually white) nationalism. Figures like Barton blend the idea that America is a “Christian country” with the idea that the only critiques of the Founding Fathers — that, say, they owned slaves or contributed to racial inequality — come from “politically correct” historians seeking to discredit America’s great history for political ends. …

 

Barton uses the appearance of academic inquiry without any of its rigor — to shill for a Christian dominionist approach to government that ideologues from Newt Gingrich to Michele Bachmann to Brownback to Trump’s latest favorite candidate, Saccone, are all too happy to accept without question.

 

Of course, the concerns of most Christian dominionists isn’t historical at all, but rather eschatological. … more concerned with the apocalyptic End Times a Christian nation is supposed to usher in, according to certain strains of evangelical belief.

 

This from Americans United For Separation of Church and State — an article from 2012: 

The Barton Lies Debunked

The past few months have been pretty rocky for “Christian nation” advocate David Barton.

 

The Texas-based Barton, who has posed as a historian for the past 20 years and claims to have proven that church-state separation is a “myth,” suffered a humiliating blow in August when the publisher of his latest work, Thomas Nelson, announced that the firm was withdrawing the volume, having lost confidence in its accuracy.

 

The controversial book, “The Jefferson Lies: Exposing the Myths You’ve Always Believed About Thomas Jefferson” (published April 10, 2012)  purported to tell the “real” story behind our nation’s third president. According to Barton, Thomas Jefferson was for most of his life an orthodox Christian who freely blended church and state and never seriously backed a wall between the two.

 

The audacity of the claim was apparently Barton’s undoing. His downfall came from an unlikely source: a band of conservative Christian scholars who grew weary of his abuse of history.

 

Warren Throckmorton and Mich­ael Coulter, professors at Pennsylvania’s Grove City College, earlier this year published a detailed refutation of Barton’s book titled Getting Jefferson Right: Fact-Checking Claims About Our Third President. The book marked the beginning of the end for Barton.

 

What made the Throck­mor­ton­/ ­­Coulter broadside so powerful was its source: Grove City is a conservative Christian institution. … Throckmorton said he began looking into Barton’s work in October of 2010. At the time, the psychology professor was doing some research about a bill in Uganda that would have imposed the death penalty on gays. He had come across references to Bryan Fischer, a staffer at the Tupelo, Miss.-based American Family Association, who has argued that the First Amendment doesn’t protect non-Christians.

 

As he took a closer look at Fischer, Throckmorton began seeing references to Barton. “I found that many of Fischer’s ideas were derived from Barton’s writings,” Throckmorton said. “That led to a closer look at key claims Barton made frequently in his speeches and books.”

 

Throckmorton told Church & State that he and his colleague Coulter were dismayed by the poor quality of Barton’s scholarship. “Barton is often introduced as a Christian historian and is cited by politicians and policy makers who conduct their work in the name of Christ,” Throckmorton said. “To me and my colleagues, the first goal of any scholar, Christian or not, is to get the facts right.

 

Throckmorton continued. “We examined the claims made by Barton about Jefferson and found that they were off. Christians often fault others for disregarding objective facts. However, Christians are the offenders in the service of political objectives.” …

 

Once under the critical microscope, Barton’s troubles quickly piled up. The hammer really fell on Aug. 8, when National Public Radio’s Barbara Bradley Haggerty aired a devastating report on Barton and his claims.

 

Haggerty enlisted Barton critics to fact-check his claims. Their research showed the claims to be spurious. (Two examples: Barton asserts that the Constitution is laced with biblical references and that Thomas Paine ad­vo­cated teaching creationism in schools. The Constitution contains no biblical citations, and Paine died in 1809 – 50 years before Charles Darwin outlined the theory of evolution in On The Origin of Species.)

 

Around the same time, World, an evangelical Christian magazine, reported that Jay W. Richards, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, a group that promotes “intelligent design” creationism, asked 10 conservative-Christian college professors to examine Barton’s work. “Their response was negative,” reported World.…

 

Even Break Point, a ministry founded by the late Charles W. Colson, decided to cut Barton loose. In an Aug. 21 column, ministry official Tom Gilson chided his fellow evangelicals for so readily swallowing Barton’s line.

 

“With a bit of care, any of us could have known of the serious questions that have surrounded Barton’s work for a long time,” Gilson wrote. “These recent revelations are nothing new, except in the degree to which conservative Christian scholars are involved in calling him to account.”

 

Gilson noted that Barton has frequently attacked some of his critics because they are liberals and asserted, “But the ideology defense is no help when it’s conservative Christians making a case against Barton – especially when it’s a case as verifiable as this is proving to be. It’s not political opinion that’s stacking up against him now. It’s well-documented facts.” …

 

Writing in The Atlantic, journalist Garrett Epps summed up the matter with a certain refreshing bluntness, observing, “For at least the past 20 years, Barton has been a tireless producer of books and pamphlets designed to demonstrate that America was found­ed by Christians and should be governed by Christians, that the separation of church and state is a myth, and that Protestant Christianity should be a part of government.

 

“In that time,” Epps continued, “he has come to occupy a position of influence within the Republican Party. His success is appalling, first because he is not a historian of any kind (his sole degree is from Oral Roberts University in religious education), and second because, even by the standards of today’s right wing, he is an obvious crackpot.” …

 

Remarkably, none of this slowed Barton down. In fact, he and his “Wallbuilders” organization began a rapid rise among the Religious Right. Barton began appearing at national conferences, where he would present his cut-and-paste version of history to adoring audiences.

 

Along the way, he became aligned with people like TV preacher Pat Rob­ertson, Focus on the Family founder James C. Dobson, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich and other leaders of the religious and political right. They lauded Barton as a premier Christian historian. …

 

Jon Fea, associate professor of American history and chair of the history department at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa., is also a Barton critic. As Fea noted on his blog, “When legitimate historians criticize [Barton’s] work, he paints them as godless and liberal. But can all these historians and critics be wrong? Apparently Dav­id Bar­ton is the only one out there who has correctly interpreted Thomas Jefferson.

 

“This kind of arrogance,” Fea continued, “not only shows a deep disrespect for the work of historians, many of whom have devoted their lives to the study of Jefferson, but, perhaps more importantly, it is an embarrassment to the Christian church.”

According to Southern Poverty Law Center

David Barton’s Own Words

“Money does not belong to the government, it belongs to individuals, and to steal money from individuals through whatever government spending program is taking private property, and you’re not supposed to do that.”   —WallBuilders broadcast, January 2011

 

“Jesus says the sun shines on the just … the rain falls on the wicked. … God treats everybody exactly the same, whether you’re rich or poor you pay a ten percent tithe. … The concept of justice goes out with the progressive income tax which is why the Bible is opposed to it.”  —“Making the Constitution Obsolete: Understanding What is Happening to America’s Economic and Cultural Heritage,” an educational DVD marketed by the American Family Association, 2011

 

“There’s a passage that I love in Romans 1. … [I]t talks about homosexuality and it says that they will receive in their bodies the penalties of their behavior. … The Bible [is] right every time … and that’s why AIDS has been something they haven’t discovered a cure for or a vaccine for. … And that goes to what God says, ‘Hey you’re going to bear in your body the consequences of this homosexual behavior.’”  —WallBuilders broadcast, April 27, 2012

 

“People use Jefferson all the time and say, ‘Hey, you can’t do religious stuff at a school, Jefferson’s opposed to it.’ … He wasn’t opposed to that kind of thing.”  —“The Daily Show,” Comedy Central, May 1, 2012

 

For example, Barton has claimed that President Ronald Reagan, even after surviving an assassination attempt, opposed gun control. That’s entirely false. In fact, after being shot in 1981, Reagan voiced clear support for the Brady gun control bill in an opinion piece published in The New York Times.

 

Some of Barton’s claims are mind-boggling to any reasonably well-educated person. For example, in his version of history, the founding fathers “already had the entire debate on creation and evolution,” and chose creationism. Reality check: Charles Darwin didn’t publish his theory of evolution in The Origin of Species until 1859, more than half a century after the founding fathers were active. 

 

In 2010, Barton joined the battle to bowdlerize the Texas social studies curriculum for public schools, supporting efforts to excise Martin Luther King Jr. and 1960s farm worker activist Cesar Chavez from textbooks. As reported by Washington Monthly, Barton said King didn’t deserve to be included for advancing minority rights because “only majorities can expand political rights.”

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For Kettering City Council — “At Large” Positions — I Am Voting For Jacque Fisher and Jyl Hall

In this election, two candidates will be elected to serve on the Kettering City Council. I am voting for Jyl Hall and I am voting for Jacque Fisher —  the incumbent first elected in 2017

There are three candidates for the two “at-large” positions. I sent each candidate three questions — with a lengthy introduction explaining my concerns. Fisher and Hall replied. But from the third candidate, Joseph Patak, I got no response, even though his webpage says, “Please, contact me and ask me anything. I will try to personally respond to each and every email.” I sent Patak the same message three times — with no response. His refusal to respond says a lot about how he would behave as a Council member, if elected. (See:Joseph Patak, CONSERVATIVE Candidate For Kettering Council, Boasts That A Crackpot Propagandist — David Barton — “Is One Of My Heroes”)

I like Fisher and Hall because they both are committed to service. Fisher is the founder of Kettering Backpack Program and has managed the Neighbor to Neighbor Food Pantry.  I like that in her answers to the DDN, Fisher said, “As I have continued to champion, the most at-need in our community are our working poor.” Fisher was the highest vote getter in 2017 for the “at-large” position.

Jyl Hall earned a Master’s and PhD from Asbury Theological Seminary — in Wilmore, Ky. — adjacent to my alma mater, Asbury University. She teaches part-time at United Seminary. She says, “In my family, dinner table conversations centered on the importance of having the back of the working people in the Dayton region.” She is the daughter of Tony Hall, who served as a U.S. Congress person for the Dayton region as well as a U.S. Ambassador, and the granddaughter of Dayton Mayor Dave Hall.

My questions deal with what is the central problem of our time — the disunity and polarization of the citizenry.  Here are the questions and the answers given by Fisher and Hall (My lengthy intro is shown below.)

1)  What is your response concerning the urgency to build citizen unity?

Jacque Fisher:

Jacque Fisher

Data pulled from our citizen surveys show the residents aren’t radically divided on the direction our city is proceeding.  Yes there are times when residents want something immediatelychanged in their neighborhood, but I would not characterize our city as divided.  I do agree there is always more that can be done to ensure synergy, but diversity of thought always brings great ideas.

Jyl Hall

You make an important point with your question because the situation is urgent.  Many people would not guess that the huge majority of voters agree on much more than we disagree on when it comes to policies.  At the same time, misinformation and division have reached a boiling point. Some studies have shown that even before 2016 politicians were more polarized than the at the time of the Civil War. Though we often want the same things, in truth we have mistaken beliefs about what the “other side” actually thinks.  Extremists on both sides often have the microphone, but I do not agree with extremists on either side and neither do most people. We can’t solve our problems in the city without some unity.  At the end of the day, we all hope for a safe and peaceful place to live and raise our kids, with decent jobs in a city we take pride in.

2) Do you agree that as an elected leader you should work to help build a civic community in Kettering that at present does not exist?

Jacque Fisher:

As a leader in the city, yes I believe I am a role model on bringing our residents together.  Being the liaison of the Board of Community Relations is a role in which I can and have used those skills.  Each time a resident uplifts an issue to me as council, I again get an opportunity to use my collaborative skill set.

Jyl Hall

It is vitally important for local politicians in particular to build civic community.  Local politics in Kettering is not supposed to be partisan because the issues that City Council actually influences are not partisan: paved roads, efficient services, and property maintenance for example. The Dayton Daily News recently did a great op-ed on how inappropriate it was to use to use partisan titles at the local level.  It is a critical time to demonstrate more humility in civil discourse. I believe it is important to be humble as a leader, seek consensus, and to condemn hatred from either side.

3) Would you be willing to form a group of interested citizens to study this challenge of creating a meaningful civic community in Kettering and to make recommendations?

Jacque Fisher:

With our current city manager form of city government, the role of the city council has specific roles.  It’s not as easy to click fingers and just create a group but rather it would be a topic to discuss for council to establish. Ultimately, a charter would need to be formed. 

Jyl Hall

I would love to be a part of a Kettering citizen group for meaningful civic community! It would be wonderful to see public/private partnerships towards building unified consensus and peaceful, inclusive neighborhoods. I hope you will be part of helping to make it happen!

Premise of the Questions:

Tony and Jyl Hall. Tony Hall represented this district in the U.S. Congress from from 1979-2002. From 2002 to 2006, Hall served as United States Ambassador to the United Nations Agencies for Food and Agriculture.

The disunity, division and polarization of our citizens is becoming so severe that I am increasingly afraid that our republic might collapse. The dissolution of our republic would be a calamity of Biblical proportions leading to great suffering, turmoil and lasting consequences. 

What our nation desperately needs is leadership with a vision and a plan for unifying the citizenry. The most likely place for citizen unification is at the grassroots level in a prosperous and pleasant place like Kettering.

Kettering has a wonderful volunteer program and a leadership training program. But, like most jurisdictions, Kettering is lacking a meaningful organized civic community. Twelve years ago, I decided to offer to serve on the Kettering School Board and I quickly discovered how hard it is to seek election to this non-partisan office. I had assumed that in Kettering there was an organized civic community with members keenly interested in making our public schools as good as possible, but I discovered that such a community does not exist. As a candidate it was up to me to create my own audience and to somehow pay for the huge expense of delivering my message to Kettering’s 40,000 registered voters. (The League of Women Voters organized one event to “meet the candidates,” and only about 30 people attended — all friends and relatives of the candidates.)

In Mayberry, with Andy, Opey, and Aunt Bea, etc — I still watch that show — the townspeople come together as a community to discuss town issues. The elected officials are held accountable by this group. If someone was seeking election to the Mayberry Town Counsel or the Mayberry Board of Education, he or she would address this Mayberry community and would answer questions. When elected, he or she would be a partner with this community.

In the traditional non-partisan Vermont Town Halls, in local jurisdictions, citizens regularly came together to discuss town issues and to meaningfully communicate with elected officials. Now the term “town hall” indicates a shouting match with angry partisans.  

Disunity is not just a national problem. Somehow we need to build unity, we need to build “community” at the grassroots level. The challenge is to build a Kettering civic community that at present doesn’t exist. In the ideal, at the center of our politics, I believe our long-term goal should be — as MLK and John Lewis advocated — a “Beloved Community” with citizens connected by love and mutual respect doing the hard work of building harmony and consensus.  

Our hope for the future is that citizens of good will, citizens dedicated to “civic virtue” — on the right and left — will unite. A united citizenry would not tolerate hunger or privation in our great country. A united citizenry would find consensus to deal with the enormous challenges plowing towards us. This unification will require imagination and leadership and the place to start is not in Washington or Columbus. Citizen unity must bubble up. Unity must start in the grassroots. It must start in a place like Kettering. 

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